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Historical Sites Advisory Board Friday-May-12-l972 #l/72
The Historical Sites Advisory Board met at the Authority Office,
5 Shoreham Drive, Downsview on Friday, May 12, 1972, commencing at
10:00 a.m.
PRESENT WERE
Chairman J.A. Bryson
Vice-Chairman Dr. FoH. Van Nostrand
Members W.C. Davidson, Q.Co
L.B. Goodfellow
Mrs. D. Hague
J.E. Harper
Brig. J.Ao McGinnis
Mrs. E. Neil
Dr. L.So Russell
Dr. JoW. Scott
D.F. Withrow
Vice-Chairman of the
Authority R.G. Henderson
Director of Operations K.G. Higgs
Adm. - Historical Sites R.K. Cooper
Supt. of Operations BCPV G. Dyce
Tech.Asst. Curatorial Mrs. J.M. Hughes
Deputy-Treasurer D.L. Hall
ABSENT WERE
Members Mrs. J. Kinsey
ToJo Shoniker
MINUTES
The Minutes of Meeting #3/7l were presented.
Res. #1 Moved by: Dr. F.H. Van Nostrand
Seconded by: J.Eo Harper
RESOLVED THAT: The Minutes of Meeting #3/71 be adopted as read.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
STAFF PROGRESS REPORT
The Staff Progress Report for the period January 1 to April 30, 1972
was presented.
Res. #2 Moved by: Mrs. D. Hague
Seconded by: Mrs. E. Neil
RESOLVED THAT: The Staff Progress Report for the period January 1
to April 30, 1972, be received and filed.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
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1973 PRELIMINARY BUDGET ESTIMATES
The 1973 Preliminary Budget Estimates were presented and discussed.
Re s. # 3 Moved by: L.B. Goodfellow
Seconded by: Dr. J.W. Scott
RESOLVED THAT: The 1973 Preliminary Budget Estimates, as presented,
be approved in principle; and further
THE BOARD RECOMMENDS THAT: The 1973 Preliminary Budget Estimutes, as
appended as Schedule "A" of these Minutes, be included in the 1973
Preliminary Budget Estimates of the Authority.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
REPORT #l/72
PRINTING SUB-COMMITTEE
'Report #1/72 of the Printing Sub-Committee was presented and discussed
in detail.
Res. #4 Moved by: Mrs. D. Hague
Seconded by: Brig. J.A. McGinnis
RESOLVED THAT: Report #1/72 of the Printing Sub-Committee be received,
approved and appended as Schedule "B" of these Minutes.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
Mrs. Hague, Chairman of the Historical Sites Advisory Board since its
inception in 1957, extended sincere thanks to the Members of the
Board and the Staff for the support and cooperation enjoyed by her
during her term of office.
Mrs. Neil, on behalf of the Members, thanked Mrs. Hague for her long
and devoted leadership to the Board.
THE GARDEN CLUB OF TORONTO
In the absence of Mrs. Kinsey, Mr. Cooper presented a brief report on
the project of The Garden Club of Toronto at Black Creek Pioneer
Village and advised that their total contribution of $50,000.00 has
now been completed for landscaping of the Black Creek Conservation
Area and Pioneer Village, which would allow plantings to carryon
into 1973, and that Mrs. Kinsey would be preparing a full report on
the project for a later meeting of this Board.
Re s. # 5 Moved by: Mrs. E. Neil
Seconded by: J.E. Harper
RESOLVED THAT: The report on landscaping at Black Creek Conservation
Area and Pioneer Village through the generous contribution of The
Garden Club of Toronto, be received.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
ST. LUKE'S CHURCH - THORNHILL
A Staff communication was presented advising that a letter has been
received from Reverend Thomas H. Chidlow, Pastor of St. Luke's Church
in Thornhill, offering to donate the church building to Black Creek
Pioneer Village. The offer also has the approval of Archbishop Pocock.
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Re s . #6 Moved by: R.G. Henderson
Seconded by: Dr. L.S. Russell
RESOLVED THAT: The Reverend Thomas H. Chidlow, Pastor of St. Luke's
Church, Thornhill, be thanked for offering the l847 church edifice
to Black Creek Pioneer Village but that in view of the size of the
building the Board regretfully declines the offer; and further
THAT the Board offer any technical assistance to the Reverend
Chidlow in the event it is proposed to restore the church at its
present site.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Bryson informed the Members of the untimely death of Dr. A.H.
Richardson last December and extended his sincere thanks to the
Foundation, Board Members and Staff for their confidence in him in
his first term of office as Chairman of this Board.
ADJOURNMENT
On Motion, the Meeting adjourned at 4:25 p.m., May 12.
J.A. Bryson D.L. Hall (Deputy-Treasurer)
Chairman Acting Secretary
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SCHEDULE "A"
APPENDIX C
Division: Historic Sites
Programme: Historic Sites Development
BLACK CREEK PIONEER VILLAGE
Robl in's Mill l,OOO.
Boardwalk 1,000.
Gunsmith Shop 2,000.
Sawyer's Home 4,000.
Shutters - H.W.H. 2,000.
Mud House lO,OOO.
Artifacts (M.T.R.C.F.) 5,000. $25,000.
BRUCE"S MILL 9,000.
$34,000.
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SCHEDULE a B"
REPORT #l/72
of the
PRINTING SUB-COMMITTEE
of the
Historical Sites Advisory Board
The Printing Sub-Committee of the Historical Sites Advisory
Board met at the Half Way House, Black Creek Pioneer Village
on Thursday, February 24, 1972, commencing at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT WERE
Chairman W. Leavens
Members Mrs. D. Hague
M. Jeanneret
A.D. McFall
J.M. Redditt
Chairman, Advisory Board J.A. Bryson
Authority Chairman G.R. Lord
Consultant Miss D.M. Dale
Staff F.L. Lunn
R.K. Cooper
Mrs. J .M. Hughes
ABSENT WERE
Members M.V. James
C. Nolan
The following matter was discussed:
1. The format and details of the l3th edition of the
Pioneer Press and related details;
IT WAS AGREED, AND THE SUB-COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THAT:
(a) W. Leavens continue as Editor;
(b) Miss D.Ma Dale be Editorial Assistant;
( c) The size, format, quantity and price be as in 1971;
(d) Members submit copy to the Editorial Assistant at the
following address:
Miss D .M. Dale
Suite 1019
159 Bay Street
Toronto, Ontario
Phone: 366-2804
(e) Deadline for copy to be APRIL-l-1972;
( f) All members be requested to provide articles and features
and; that the following subjects, where possible, be
included:
1. General items and layout Miss Dale
2. Early Surveyors Miss Dale
3. Auction Sale advertisements Miss Dale
4. Early Medical History
5. Waterfront History Dr. Lord
6. Washington Press
7. Early postage Stamps
8. Dolls House
9. Etiquette
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Report #1/72 - Printing Sub-Committee Page 2
lO. Pioneer Lighting Dr. Russell
11. Standard Time Dr. Lord
12. Band Activities A.D. McFall
13. The Twy Letters M. Jeanneret
14. Weavers Shop, etc. R.K. Cooper
15. Fox Hunting Dr. Lord
16. Early types of poultry R.K. Cooper
17. Herb Cooking R.K. Cooper
l8. Various portages in Vaughan J.A. Bryson
19. Sermons W. Leavens
(g) That the Staff explore the possibility of raising sufficient
funds to permit wide distribution of the press to students
as they leave the Village; and
That a questionnaire on the Press be provided teachers on
leaving the Village;
(h) The Staff check the possibility and desirability of soliciting
paid ads from firms in business over lOO years.
W. Leavens F.L" Lunn
Chairman Secretary-Treasurer
February-29-1972
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Historical Sites Advisory Board Friday-october-20-1972 #2/72
The Historical Sites Advisory Board met at the Authority Office,
5 Shoreham Drive, Downsview on Friday, October 20, 1972, commencing at
10:00 a.m.
PRESENT WERE
Chairman J.A. Bryson
Vice-Chairman Dr. F.H. Van Nostrand
Members W.C. Davidson, Q.C.
Mrs. D. Hague
J.E. Harper
Mrs. J. Kinsey
Brig. J.A. McGinnis
Mrs. E. Neil
Dr. L.S. Russell
T.J. Shoniker
D .F. Wi throw
Chairman of the Authority Dr. G. Ross Lord
Vice-Chairman of Authority R.G. Henderson
Secretary-Treasurer F.L. Lunn
Adm. - Historical sites Div. R.K. Cooper
Tech.Asst.Curatorial Mrs. J.M. Hughes
Supt. of Operations BCPV G. Dyce
Asst.Supt.of Operations J. Lyons
ABSENT WERE
Members L.B. Goodfellow
Dr. J.W. Scott
MINUTES
The Minutes of Meeting #l/72 were presented.
Res. #7 Moved by: Brig. J.A. McGinnis
Seconded by: J.E. Harper
RESOLVED THAT: The Minutes of Meeting #1/72 be adopted as read.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
STAFF PROGRESS REPORT
The Staff Progress Report for the period May 1 to August 31, 1972
was presented.
Res. #8 Moved by: Dr. G. Ross Lord
Seconded by: Dr. L.S. Russell
RESOLVED THAT: The Staff Progress Report for the period May 1 to
August 3l, 1972 be received and filed.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
REPORT OF GARDEN CLUB PROJECT
Mrs. Kinsey presented a comprehensive report on the Garden Club
Project at Black Creek Pioneer Village.
Res. #9 Moved by:. Mrs. J. Kinsey
Seconded by: Dr. F.H. Van Nostrand
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RESOLVED THAT: The Report on the Garden Club Project at Black
Creek Pioneer Vill~ge be received and appended as Schedule IIAII of
these Minutes.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
Res. #10 Moved by: Dr. F.H. Van Nostrand
Seconded by: Mrs. D. Hague
THE BOARD RECOMMENDS THAT: An expression of sincere appreciation be
tendered to The Garden Club of Toronto and all those who participated
in the Garden Club Project.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
Res. #11. Moved by: W.C. Davidson
Seconded by: D.F. Withrow
RESOLVED THAT: The Garden Club of Toronto be commended for the
outstanding flower festival held at St. James Cathedral on the
celebration of the l75th Anniversary of the Cathedral.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
PARSONS INDIAN VILLAGE SITE
The Staff presented a report of the action taken in connection with
the proposals for the Parsons Indian Village site.
Res. #12 Moved by: Dr. L.S. Russell
Seconded by: T.J. Shoniker
RESOLVED THAT: The Staff Report dated October 5, 1972 on the
proposals for the Parsons Indian Village site be received and
concurred in.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
A.A. (LEX) MACKENZIE HOUSE
A Staff Report was presented advising that the Administratrices for
the Estate of the late A.A. Mackenzie have offered the Lex Mackenzie
house to the Authority with the hope that it could be utilized in
the Black Creek Pioneer Village.
Res. #13 Moved by: T.J. Shoniker
Seconded by: J.E. Harper
THE BOARD RECOIvL.1ENDS THAT: The A.A. (Lex) Mackenzie house at
Woodbridge be accepted and moved to the Black Creek Pioneer Village
as soon as funds are available.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
DOMINION CARRIAGE WORKS
A Staff comnunication was presented advising that as a result of a
poll of the Members of the Historical Sites Advisory Board, the
Executive Committee has authorized the purchase of the Dominion
Carriage Works at Sebringvi11e and arrangements are presently being
made to move the building to the Black Creek Pioneer Village, and
that The Metropolitan Toronto and Region Conservation Foundation has
been requested to raise the necessary funds for the purpose.
Res. #l4 Moved by: Brig. J.A. McGinnis
Seconded by: Mrs. E. Neil
RESOLVED THAT: The action taken in connection with the Dominion
Carriage Works in Sebringville be concurred in.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
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NEW BUSINESS
DISTRIBUTION OF EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS
Mr. Withrow brought to the attention of the Board that the Ontario
Department of Education publishes annually a circular of Canadian
curricular materials, available to classes in The Province of Ontario.
Res. #l5 Moved by: D.F. Wi throw
Seconded by: Mrs. J. Kinsey
THE BOARD RECOMMENDS THAT: The Staff be directed to submit to the
Ministry of Education a complete listing of materials available from
the Authority, for inclusion in their circular, on Canadian curricular
materials available to classes in Ontario.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
WM. HOGG CABINET MAKERS SHOP
Mr. Cooper drew to the attention of the Board that a complete cabinet
makers shop known as the WID. Hogg Cabinet Makers Shop is available
for purchase and that the acquisition of this building would be a
great asset to Black Creek Pioneer Village. The matter was discussed
at some length.
~es. #lti Moved by: J.E. Harper
Seconded by: Mrs. E. Neil
THE BOARD RECO~~ENDS THAT: The Staff investigate ways and means of
acquiriDg the Km. Hogg Cabinet Makers Shop, with the possibility of
having it located in the Black Creek Pioneer Village.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY;
APPRECI~TIO~ TO STAFF
The Chairman expressed the appreciation of the Board to the Staff
for their dedicated efforts in connection with the operation of the
Black Creek Pioneer Village and, in particular, the success of the
1972 Pioneer Festival.
ADJOURmriENT
On Motion, the Meeting adjourned at 12:10 p.m., October 20.
J .A. Br\.~~E_._ F.L. Lunn -
Chairman Secretary-Treasurer
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SCHEDULE "All
To: The Historical sites Advisory Board - Meeting #2/72
Re: Garden Club Project at Black Creek Pioneer Village
Mr. Chairman and Members:
I am glad of this opportunity to give a final summing up of The
Garden Club Project at Black Creek Pioneer village.
There is a copy of my final report to the Garden Club Annual
Meeting of 1972, as well as a copy of the resume of the Project
which will be sent to all Garden Club members this fall, for
each member of this Board. These reports give the details of
the planting and include the number and variety of trees and
shrubs planted.
However, at this meeting I would like to comment on a few points
which are, I feel, of special interest only to this Board.
But, first, I would like to mention that about two years ago
one of the Village employees said to me they were happy the
Garden Club was helping them. Something in the way she said this
made me ask, "Didn't you think you would be? - and she answered -
"No, when many of the workmen first heard the Garden Club was
starting a Project here, they thought it was a complete disaster;
their attitude was, . my God, all those women going to muck around;
they were in a hand-wringing state and were sure nothing would
turn out right".
But then the fact that trees were being planted - and the right
kind - and in the right place - made an impact - until now, it is
quite apparent that all the staff are strong supporters of our
work. So you can imagine how much I enjoyed the comment from one
of them: "It's getting to be a regular Sherwood Forest out here
now" .
Before we could even begin our planting plan, it was necessary to
know what would have been growing in the area before le67. 'Since
there were no books on the subject, a great deal of research was
necessary, which resulted in two publications.
One is the booklet 'EARLY PLANTS' printed by The Garden Club,
which is a listing of plants, crops, etc. , growing in this part
of southern Ontario - native and introduced. It is not of
general interest, but the Federal Plant Research Department and
similar organizations tell us it is of immense value, because it
is the only booklet where all these plants are listed together.
'PIONEER GARDENS AT BLACK CREEK PIONEER VILLAGE' is the first and
only book on early gardens. This book, while part of our Project,
cannot be considered a Garden Club book because the total cost of
publishing it was borne by Holt, Rinehart & Winston of Canada.
All royalties from the sale of this book have been turned over
to Black Creek Pioneer Village for the development and maintenance
of the gardens in the historical village. since publication, the
total in royalties is more than $2,000.00. Under the terms of
reference of this Board, this money is a financial responsibility
which should be put on the Agenda for review yearly. The reference
for 'development of the gardens' means there will be money
available when new gardens should be built - at the doctor's house,
or at the manse, for example - when these buildings are officially
opened.
Today when we talk of planting the gardens around the buildings in
the Village, we do not mean putting in great beds of flowers; in
fact we want to remove many growing there now.
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As an example, the Burwic k , or Gentleman's House, has four trellises
of a hybrid clematis. This is a most attractive house, but perhaps
two trellises would show its beauty to better advantage and these
should be planted with morning glory or a native clematis, to be
authentic. At each side of the front door there are two beds with
about 30 geraniums in each. A pioneer housewife would feel lucky if
she could bring two or three plants through the winter.
We are planting new apple trees. Apples were so important for the
settler's winter diet. They would not neglect to replace old trees.
I spoke to the gardener a couple of years ago about this planting
around the buildings, and he said he would be glad of any help.
Lists of plants for the gardens at the buildings will be completed
before next spring. We should all realize they will be typical of
the period only. No one knows exactly what would have been there,
and even if we did, it is impossible to grow the exact plants
because, like the pioneers themselves, these plants, too, have
changed.
Pictures taken before our Project began and those taken this year
do show that there has been an improvement!
One of the first things we ",anted to do was plant around the lower
pond so it would look more natural - but there were problems. Since
it is man-made, it takes longer for the banks to break down
naturally; the ducks eat the seedlings that try to grow and, above
all, there is the salt problem. I don't want to magnify this salt
problem because it is one common to all of North America where
roads are salted; but I would like to think it is put on the Agenda
every once in a while for discussion. Mr. Dart of the Ontario
Water Resources Commission has been most helpful in suggesting
methods for the soil improvement. John Hicks, on this staff, made
a report on the subject this summer, which I will leave with the
Chainnan.
There are a few special plantings for the Village I would like to
comment on. Dr. A.H. Richardson wrote one of the books I used
when listing the native trees, shrubs and plants for the plantings.
I am saddened that he is not here today, because he was so vitally
interest~d in our planting proj ect and his expert hort:icul tural
knowledge is a great loss to this Board. We are planting some
native shrubs in his memory.
Russell Cooper has given so much help with our Project there has
to be something spec~al for him.
One day I overheard lvirs. Neil say that she would like to see yellow
briar roses at the stong Red House. This will be d00e; although I
realize it is much too small a tribute for one who he. s made such a
great contribution to our early social history.
I haven't asked Mrs. Hague what she would like to have groYling,
but I want her to think about it. When Ch~irman of this Board she
came to one of the Annual Meetings of the Garcien Club and, unknown
to me, asked the President for peImission to say & few words. She
gave the most delightful and gracious than"ks to our members that T
have ever had the pleasure to hear. 'I'he Garde11 Club is not used to
personal thanks (we are more used to requests for money) and I
assure you, Mrs. Hague, '.:hat you made history that day. Personally
I want to thank you for your kindness to me. Mrs. H2.gue used to
ask if there were any way she could help with onr Project, and I
have learned this, too, is unique.
In addition to the Garden Club donations, there was a sma 11 Special
Fund made up of gifts from interested friends. 1bese special gifts
for plantings will be listed in a Donors' Book, given to Black
Creek Pioneer Village for their library, ar;c t11e plantings I have
just mentioned will be included.
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David Dyce is in charge of this special planting, in addition to
finishing our Garden Club Project, and is doing an excellent job.
This is my last appearance on this Board, so may I make one further
suggestion - which is not really connected with our Project? I
think a Volunteer Group of younq women who would be ready to act as
hostesses and sales help in the new Reception Centre would be of
inestimable value. Organizing this would involve the Information
and Education Advisory Board, so I asked Mrs. Reid, who is on that
Board, if she thought it would be a good idea - and she agreed;
but, of course, we have done nothing further.
I don't know Mrs. Reid1s age, but she is just the right age to
undertake such a plan or, perhaps, another member of the Junior
League might help. Volunteer women work in the Art Gallery
Bookshop, the Ballet Paper Shops and, because of their help, these
organizations are able to make money.
At the DuPont Gardens at Winterthur and Longwood, the helpers are
volunteers. These groups are very carefully organized and each
member is committed to a certain number of volunteer hours.
My purpose in proposing such a volunteer groups is that it would
help keep the admission price of the Village from sky-rocketing.
The tantalizing thing about the past is that we cannot know
exactly how it was. All our theories will fall short of certainty;
the utmost we can aspire to is a reasonable degree of probability.
But with our Project at Black Creek Pioneer Village, we have tried
to create an atmosphere as authentic as anyone can verify today.
"Walk softly in this place.
Listen carefully and you
will hear the voices from
the past".
Mr. Chairman, I move the acceptance of this Report.
Mrs. John Kinsey
October-20-l972